(She died in 1995, and I am so glad to have such good and often funny memories of her.) I am a badass.. Webcharity bell guilford county schools; did choi woo shik serve in the military; is impeachment an effective check on the president; joseph moran jr son of thelma ritter. This excludes Boyd, Greenup, Lewis, etc. She laughed. (LogOut/ Harlan is no more defined by any subculture than Chicago should be defined by its sad history of public housing or New York by the worst of its slums. I respect ALL coal miners. The new leader of the UMWA, Arnold Miller (a real miner, not just a union hack), is shown as a possible sellout. Im proud of where Im from and yes my Daddy was a coal miner for a time. I lived in Harlan for many years just ended up there one day and loved it and stayed I was not born or raised there just lived Place is wonderfull Im 25 so I would love to go back I call it home I feel home there I moved bout a year ago to Indiana. We like that its called Bloody Harlanby some folks even though that name is based upon events which occurred 70 years ago. Then, I moved to Lexington, Kentucky and found out that I was pretty tough by Lexington standards. Glad I did not move here and my kids there, My children have been able to say they are from Eastern Ky as both were born down there. They know whats best for Harlan, though, and wont hesitate to tell you. Many who knew of the hair would be shocked to know he wears it pretty much buzzed these days. You werent one of us. It will always be home., Thanks. My Dad was born in Evarts andexpect for military service and collegenever lived anywhere else. Many people watch the FX series Justified. Im on the state Corrections Commission, so Ive seen her name. I think they graduated in the same class at Cawood. She retired in 1982. There arent running gun battles anymore like the famed Battle of Evarts many decades ago. After all no one I know would go north of the Ky border to see. HARLAN WILL ALWAYS BE HOME TO ME. Now, sadly, its a way of life in the mountains. Besides the accident of birth, we have certain commonalities: Harlan Countians can be found everywhere. Jan had so many stories about the hospital. Anyway, I just had to leave a note. I was born and raised in Leslie County. It was originally the Bays Motel. Very funny (and true). There she met my father and I was born in 1952. They find it hard to believe we had no fast food restaurants. I was in her class the day JFK was shot in Dallas. And should I know you? Both my grandsons have degrees in med profession PT and Massage Therapy. What happened to Basil Collins in the end? My Dad was a coal miner, was on oxygen from 2007 until 2010. cheese. I lived in Rio Vista until I was 12. My husband has worked in low coal where one had to crawl to get to your section. Like to have all the money I spent in those places back! Being a descendant of such a controversial character of those times I may be asking for a social beating on here. I was born in Harlan and I remember living there, but I didnt have the experience that my parents had (who were both born in Harlan County) since I didnt grow up there. Basil was a neighbor of ours when I was a kid, so I know he was real. I think we also went to RC Bottling Plant at Loyall. Unemployment in 2017 was 9.4 percent, far above the national average. He told me if I stayed there I would either be an alcoholic, like him to survive, or I would end up dead. He worked at Eastover for several years after the strike until Duke closed the mines. Geelong. They point to the many fine folks in the county who were (and still are) horrified by the goings on at Eastover. If you dont believe me, I just might have to kill you. So please you out landing, loathing spectator, Keep your thoughts on the area you live in now, and the goings on there, we dont need or want you perspective of the people that actually live, work and die here. My Mother married her high school sweethart Robert Kitts right before he left for the army as WWII started. Rich Montjoy, I am replying to your post because you didnt say anything bad about Harlan, (Harlan County), Ky. We know at least one person whose mother was really their grandmother, and sister was their mother. Howard and Lucille Leonard are my grandparents. We always found lots of mutual interest things to gab about. I believe you will see that I have great affection for Harlan, much more than many of the people who still live there. Coal mining runs in cycles. Harlan is tough. My mother drove through Brookside to go to work every day, so I also know the strike was real. UMWA itself assisted in larger actions. I also have those wonderful memories, of making grilled cheese sandwiches in the evening, after supper when we as children, never seem to be really full. I lived in Harlan and Loyall. Jenny, I worked in Harlan Co. in the 90s on the railroad and worked with a Saylor but cant remember his first name. Good memories there. Crackin me up. I volunteer as a cashier at a nonprofits ReStore. Basil Collins Harlan County Obituary | Death | Basil Collins Dead | Died | Funeral Plans - We heard about the great loss, that Basil Collins is no more and WebIn his new introduction to the reissue of Harlan Miners Speak, an on-the-scene report from a panel of writers about the coal strike in Bell and Harlan Counties, John Hennen skillfully explains the precipitating factors of the labor unrest. When we heard a car coming we knew we were having company.we usually hid to see who it was. We also had to carry our water from a water-pump in buckets, so the new bathroom was a good conversation subject with its only use was the bathtub that we would heat water to bathe in. wilson combat magwell p320 I dont get back as often as Id like but always thoroughly enjoy coming back to visit. I never got a straight story from my parents and possibly they didnt know why or what happened. So, watch your step. Alternative name. He was a clerk there. Why turn here, I ask? My brother and I thought we had died and gone to Heaven. We were just there in July , I love going back to visit. He was actually the son of my aunts husband, so that technically makes him a cousin, but age-wise he was more of my dads generation so that made him an uncle. I go back once or twice a year to visit relatives. 1. My cousin posted the link on Facebook and I have not been able to move till finishing the read. I am also a faithful Alabama Football Fan ROLL TIDE. A striking coal miner was in critical condition last night in Harlan County, Ky., after being struck in the head by a shotgun blast. It was the latest violent incident in Harlan County, long a scene of labor unrest. If you have a book related to Harlan County and it's people. My ancestors settled Smith, hence its name, and Im proud of it being off the grid. I need a shirt like that. My brother actually had a knife pulled on him at Cawood. Remember all the men that used to hang out around the courthouse, sitting on the little wall? I aint convinced about mccounty She agreed. To the men that worked at the Highsplint mine, where the majority of filming took place for the documentary, he was the one responsible for making sure Basil and his men got through to work every day. Its a kind of mountain street cred. John. Do you remember the Chappells Dairy slogan? I love your blog, it is a great read. Moved to Indiana at about 15 or 16 years of age. Thanks for reminding me of a great memory of my mother! There are gun thugs in Harlan County, U.S.A., in particular a mean, squinty-eyed, jackal named Basil Collins, his pistol sticking out of his Dickies like a goofy cap One side was a roller rink. For many years now, Harlan has had a multi-screen cinema. We are our own world. The folks in Brookside were surely Harlan Countians as was the chief gun thug, Basil Collins. I go back to Ky at least once a year. When attempting to explain to someone where I grew up it was easiest to say somewhere between Harlan and Hazard. I actually grew up on Beech Fork in Leslie County. miners in this county AND other states. Im from a family of 12, but no inbreds here, but I do know cousins who married. I was just in Harlan County this weekend. Right now, its in a big down turn. JACHS did not open until the 66 67 school year. The only tv stations the antenna could pick up were out of knoxville They have cousins or in-laws or remote ancestors who hailed from the mountains. Dickens said it best . Whitley County has an interstate so are they still Eastern Kentucky? They might have gone to college or joined the military. Collins spent more than three years as a prisoner of war in Japan. Im not sure where you found this, but most folks realize that some of it is tongue-in-cheek. You hit home with many of your comments being born and raised in Eastern Kentucky, Sandy Hook, Elliott County to be exact. .I didnt think to ask them while they were alive. I spent at least a week during the summer vacation every year growing up visiting the Harlan area and family enjoying every visit which included rail road tracks and slate dumps on one side of house and the Cumberland River on the other side all residing in a big holler off HWY 38. loved this. It has always been home for me. Wayne brought u shea and ur mom n I think he took pictures. Finally I tried talking like a city slicker but I was too Eastern Kentucky that way. We can be called ignorant, inbred, genetically inferior, toothless, shoelessyou name it. Mikes Drive In was in Loyall. I had him for a health class. Ive been trying to read up on as much as I can on the people in the documentary. If its easy, theres nothing better. The obvious beingwe are just like you and every one else. I was born, raised and still live in Pike County. So my family got to enjoy it even tho they never lived in Harlan. . Thanks for the comments. Then we moved up on Park Hill in Loyall. Cawood was named after James A. Cawood, long time Superintendent of the Harlan County Schools. 6. We also suffer from stereotyping. Mountains. I went for a while to Holy Trinity School, Harlan Elementary for one year, then to Hall before Cawood. Jenny Lynn (Saylor) Moore I was born and raised in Wallins ,lived there until I was 28 moved to Florida w/ My husband David Moore from Graysknob, we both graduated from James A. Cawood, My heart is still in the mountains, you can take the girl out of the country but you cant take the country out of the girl, we long to come back some someday Lord willing, I am a Harlan girl to the bone. An outlander is someone who used to live in Harlan. When he grew up, he moved west to Colorado and became a hard rock miner for the next 40 years. Im actually kind of offended by your antics and false information. We cant include any counties on the Ohio River. Cats and Harlan Countians have 9 lives. The strikers made bumper stickers supporting their cause and drove around the community in a truck with loudspeakers to explain their grievances and hopefully gain support. Havent lived there since the late 70s, but Harlan is always home. John WebSynopsis. What is Eastern Kentucky? His name was Wiley Holmes. Went to JACHS then moved to Indiana an I havent went home in a long time. Theyre still there. Id love to learn more about the people, especially on the other side of the strike. I loved reading your blog and all, or at least most of the comments! but was always glad to talk to her by phone. Some of these folks do leave Harlana lot of them, in fact. Like you, I loved growing up there but couldnt see myself living there now. We visited my grandparents every summer. Its nice to remember, though. I knew some fine people from Smith. Even though life was very hard at times, it was filled with family and friends and its been fun thinking about them this morning. If we didnt know them, well they were at the wrong house. Wouldnt trade my youth spent in Harlan County for any other in the world. Restoring any closed widgets or categories. Doc Gray? Were also the last of a breedand this applies to all of Appalachia. My Mom taught at SE Community College. Love your response, I live in central ky for a lot of years now, but when I can go home I stay at the Comfort Inn Hotel, it is a Blessing to us out of towners, I think this page is right on, and I dont like the way most people think of Harlan, we are just like anyone else, even if we have a little accent, awesome page, and I lived in Loyall a few years also, my mother died there, thanks for letting people know that its not all justified, although I have never watched a full episode, they are awful. Now, dont confuse Harlan County with the town of Harlan, our county seat. We lived the last house in the head of the holler with my poppy and granny our only neighbors. Were still Harlan Countians. ha! A bazillion of cousins to play with..mountains to explore..farm animals to learn about, a total difference than city life on a quiet street just across from Fort McPherson Army Base. Theirs will be more like trips to Kings Island, etc. I knew your father-in-law, and mother-in-law. Read my post about growing up in Loyall sometime. Are we still allowed to be in Appalachia? There are a couple of places to stay, and theyre okay. How do we know they dont live in a ghetto. She was a great homemaker and was full of wit, wisdom and love. We got segregation in those years, and I never knew the difference, we all got along. There are good people and bad people. Basil Collins is recorded in slow motion firing a gun at the camera while members of the strikebreakers beat Ms. Kopple and her crew. I didnt know, but thats before my time. Many never leave it. heres the link: It used to be called Klondike many years ago. She was stationed in Newport News, Virginia when the war ended. I live in Lee Co,Ky. The people certainly are of Eastern Kentucky stripe, but they do lack isolation. Thats probably why he is disabled now at a a young age. We have exchanged information over the years. 62 (10) 1 Playing statistics correct to the end of 1921. Black lung finally got the best of him but legally these days black lung doesnt exist. Home; Movies; TV Shows; People. Loyallalso had a theaterthe Roadenuntil I was about 6 years old. They were both sweet, kind, honest, decent people. Go help someone else. A few notes: The qualifications for Eastern Kentucky status include: I hail from Harlan County, the Eastern Kentuckiest of all counties. There are a few folks who left and dont care to ever hear of Harlan again, but thats true of all small towns. Its nice to read good thoughts of Harlan County. The Chappells Dairy Slogan: It may be good and not be ours, but it cant be ours and not be good. That I can remember but I cant find my car in the parking lot? Oh, well. I live in Lexington, but always tell people Im from Southeastern Kentucky, Knox Co (not to be confused with just Eastern KY or Knott Co. I was looking for the turnoff to Loll. Finally I hang on long enough to get a real person. These are the folks who stayed in Harlan. Doris, do I know you? I feel the same way, even though my sons say they cant believe I grew up there! Loyallhad a school, a railroad yard, one stop light, a movie theater (at one time), the Corner Store (a genuinesoda shop), a gas station, a barber and a couple of stores. my husband was raised knowing your dad and all your family I love your blog. Never making any differences in us. Like much of Eastern Kentucky, the population has declined for decades. I am sure he is talking about when he grew up and how times were then I am from Harlan live here now .I loved the article and havent read anything disrespectful . If not, you should. I was one of the Hensley girls that lived on the strawberry farm. It was gray and you had to add the coloring to it. Since Ive been gone, Harlanlike all of Eastern Kentuckyhas been devastated by prescription drug abuse. LOL! What did he end up doing after the strikes? Would I be a pretender? I knew Lisa vaguely. Most of us pass through this phase at some point. Its called age, my friend. We knew who it was, because he told my mom about the encounter, but he was quietly scary, like a lot of the men from his era. Cheese is the only thing the US government ever perfected. your a fuckin mooron ive lived here all my life ,my family pioneered this place ,both sides, why arent u still living here? LOL. We didnt all drink Mountain Dew as babies. Black Diamonds In My Own Backyard-- Rufus J. Bailey 3. They may be from such places as Shields, Jones Creek, Smith, Cranks, Punkin Center or Happy Top, although I can name you folks from all those places who have done quite well for themselves. Heres my personal map of the area: This seemingly random boundary results in some folks calling it Southeastern Kentucky which, geographically speaking, is more accurate. It is classified as a moist countya county in which alcohol sales are prohibited (a dry county), but containing a "wet" city, in this case Cumberland, where package alcohol sales are allowed.In the city of Harlan, Any of that sound familiar, Pingback: SoWhere Are You From? Our teeth arent all that bad, although mine arent great. WebWives leader, short black hair. You went up 119 to the Loyall turnoff, and youre absolutely right: Any Harlan Countian who turns the corner at Pineville changes languages! Justified portrays Harlan as a lawless frontier of wanton violence. No complaining here though. God do I ever remember the Government Cheese and all the other free food provided by the gov. I have been gone for 40 years I still have my Harlan Co accent and the kids have lost their Eastern Ky accent. Btw, the Mount Victory part of this county feels very Eastern KY. Just found the blog and enjoyed it. Happy to be an Outlander! If he called on you and you missed the questionBOOM! I cant read some of these posts because of the negative way they talk about MY hometown. preston and i have lived here in lexington since 1999. bu i consider loyall and that little house my adopted home. Hi Julie, Yes I know your mother. IMDbPro. The rest of us (that includes me) hate the image of Harlan Countians as violent, uneducated hooligans. The economy continues to contract and isnt likely to get much better. LO Still have family there. The original Mount Aire Motel was on Pine Mountain, and it burned down in the 70s. I was born and raised in the suburbs of Detroit but my parents were from Harlan County, my dad born in Holmes Mill growing up in Highsplint, my mother born and raised in Black Mountain eventually leaving and lived in Corbin. She was one of my favorite. Thanks. He lived there with his wife my Aunt Hazel and their children Laura Jean, Stanley and Mickey. It was a thriving community in the 60s-70s. We often visited Harlan as most of our relatives were there. I have been told that he worked harder than 3 men. Nothing came easy for Dad but he never complained. My mother is Drena Crowder-Leonard. I instructed her to be on the lookout for a Harlan countian. Change), You are commenting using your Facebook account. We used to be territorial based on our schools. Take care! To add to my previous comment above, my other Grandfather was Elijah Depew (nicknamed Lidge? That is perhaps because I hail from off the grid (Smith). Fine set of words here! why dont u come back?i know why ,because it is to political and if your not a doctor or a lawyer or have plenty of money ,you aint shit yeah the mountains are nice and this is a beautiful place, but if you aint in the click you aint shit and thats the way it really is you just like the bloody harlan shit and it makes you look BADASS to tell people your from here .your a joke dude and quit livin off a place that you evidentally really no nothin about ..post this DUMBASS .
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