WebMove the pointer with the arrow buttons at the Main Menu screen to Program Decoder and press Next . WebMake sure both slide locks are closed. Select. If the decoder reading fails, a red X will appear in the display. Position the EZ-DT and EZ-1 decoder as shown in the display. The AC current will drop sharply between two points on the wire path, if the short circuit or fault to earth is between them. Check with your local sales rep and request a class. I previously distributed Hunter here in Aus and they are a brilliant company. 1:01:06 Tools for Troubleshooting. Dual/Pilot decoder not recognized by hand held. EZ-DT: Decoder Programming You I have chatted a few times with hunter support and with the local hunter rep but I figured I would try a different perspective. First, I invite you to call Tech Service at 800-733-2823 to help get this resolved. ICD-HP will not communicate with decoder. I'm an avid user of Hunter products here in Aus. To stop the chatter, press the soft key again, or it will stop by itself after 30 minutes. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. Is that true? dEZ$eo4#tWY)[ 1BqH M9 7HB37(.eFyTg%!Rppe8M'CJ_*uN%! I looked up curves when it seemed like I would have to upsize a fuse in a solid state controller in order to accommodate two valves on a zone, in a controller only rated for one. A condensed version might be possible in your area. http://www.hunterindustries.com/sites/default/files/ACC_Flash_Update_Instructions.pdf, http://www.hunterindustries.com/sites/default/files/acc_v5.11.020_xp.zip, http://www.hunterindustries.com/sites/default/files/DG_DecoderDesignGuide_dom.pdf. 1.5 Amp, fused, with alligator clips, 1.5 Amp, fused, with alligator clips, with the primary wired to a pigtail. My Armada clamp meter shows 1.5ma on my ICD100 decoders. One of my location have a hunter acc 2 wire. ?t5Za')i6/3^mAa` B@9xkWJIj#vc$lsv$ $ac9]zruP!53yT)Ek8k~oF2|jS(KzwR%~qQPxS*=[{n{;GCNBRq;4E+ajt'b34vII +sa:fKJ <> XhArBLfR6+$!$/}^T%]'N$xRP:D,d_c GuC`5PC.7|/$C. WebAttempt to turn on the decoder from the controller (Manual Single Station or ICR remote). Otherwise I have been going by what the homeowner is telling me. I thought I was the only nerd regarding 2 wire. I was at the Golf Industry Show in San Diego all day. To read decoder information: Manually activate the desired station to energize the two-wire path. Otherwise data history only shows "power outage" and "power restore" due to the homeowner shutting off the breaker, which he says 'almost' always allows the box to work properly. 19 yrs & counting. STEP 1: Verify Station Fault Remove the field wire for the faulted station. To view this page in a different language, please select from the list below. i also replace every connections with the 2 wires running to all the decoders. JavaScript is disabled. WebWith the clamp meter check the lead wire of the decoder to make sure the cause is not a failed decoder. All Hunter ICD decoders have a single copper grounding wire. That is the "wire" that would be connected to earth ground. If the decoder (s) look damaged from surge, disconnect them from the 2-wire path and check the amperage at the controller. This is done by going to "Advanced Features", "Decoder Functions", "Check ADM Current". i also replace every connections with the 2 wires running to all the decoders. Greenhouse, Nursery, and Open-Field Irrigation. A failed decoder may read 500-600 mA over that decoders lead wires. Program dummy station numbers into decoder. When the Start button is pressed, the controller will chatter the solenoid for up to 30 minutes. All rights reserved. Check battery display or Any luck using self-resetting polyfuses instead of conventional glass fuses? I have a question relating to this post and a job we are on at the moment. Thanks for any help. Disconnect the 2-wire path (s) from the controller. %PDF-1.5 % The station finder will chatter a selected station to help locate a solenoid in the field by listening. Sorry. The Fora platform includes forum software by XenForo. Troubleshooting Decoder-Based Irrigation Systems Regency Wire & Cable 3.86K subscribers Subscribe 230 Share 40K views 5 years ago Learn how to 4 0 obj Sounds weird, but you need a 24 VAC transformer. Check Programming Cup connection to decoder and ICD-HP. There will be more online material in the future. 6u-B*v?!kTBiqGx]%L(lJR%C%JT|JN](lW*M(q0sN)M3Z>.l&Zhg_v|w4(`yNId8Ui@IOPfMaUKZHTLjnJQZ\`{YAQ$t"k$HiYv;|bXr`-p J#[(iiq:;?-+&gj"tw0 ,x n(p.d0ib=J%UXSeRn2 LM %%]*WI@NT. A failed decoder may read 500-600 mA over that decoders lead wires. If there is no problem with the decoder lead wires, then split the connections for the 2-wire path. Trace and mark the 2-wire path using a 501 or 521 if necessary. Connect the Pulser to the 2-wire path that is isolated from the controller. ACC-99D uses two-wire decoders to control up to 99 stations without giving up the arsenal of features provided by the ACC. Check flow sensor wiring. i also replace every connections with the 2 wires running to all the decoders. Check with your local sales rep and request a class. Check controller power to two-wire path, or connect power leads to decoder. Konapride - Did you call Hunter today? Overflow messages. w?Lhq ?N~5kd>wkSrzPq$`p_PD8q Or are we taking those with the same grains of salt we employ when looking at sprinkler head performance charts? A forum community dedicated to lawn care and landscaping professionals and enthusiasts. Why don't you just buy your controllers from dealers instead of off the back of a truck in the middle of the night. <>/Font<>/ProcSet[/PDF/Text/ImageB/ImageC/ImageI] >>/MediaBox[ 0 0 612 792] /Contents 4 0 R/Group<>/Tabs/S/StructParents 0>> WebThe bottom of the decoder (the end with no wires) should be within the programming cup. Rod says that Hunter ICD decoders should draw 3.5 to 4ma. G'Day sprinklerkid_australia --- Your Armada Tech clamp meter is trying to read milliamps at 35 VAC and 1.2 Hertz. and the error code i get is "overcurrent" or "no comm" Does any one have any ideas. Come join the discussion about performance, modifications, classifieds, troubleshooting, maintenance, and more! I will check on it. I think it isn't posted online because it needs updating. Rod your a big help.. when i called hunter support last thursday the rep i talked to was just reading a book and didnt know a clue what i was talking about almost. Can we trust electronic component curves? Hi tlawn86 - I work for Hunter and don't jump in here often, so I hope this is okay. 3 0 obj nothing works. It's easy enough to spec triacs in a controller that will operate on the safe side of a glass fuse curve. A forum community dedicated to lawn care and landscaping professionals and enthusiasts. Sorry tlawn86 - The 2-day decoder class is currently held in San Marcos, CA. It helps us both when you are in front of the controller when we speak. <>>> I hate to disappoint 1idejim, but no Speedos were used or harmed during this operation. WebHunter ACC Decoders. Ditto on the classy rep. Those are posts well worth saving. Some of us employ self-healing transformer technology which may use a poly-switch or other resettable device. All diagnostic functions are completed via wireless communication between the EZ-DT and EZ-1 decoders. Come join the discussion about performance, modifications, classifieds, troubleshooting, maintenance, and more! The * is letting the user know that the ICD-HP is in process of communicating with the decoder. here what ive done first i went threw with my wire locater to check for broken wires and located all the valves. Make sure you have a clampmeter and notebook in your hands, I can't tell you how portant they both are. To read decoder information: Two beeps will sound, and decoder information will be displayed. endobj Check flow sensor setup. One of my location have a hunter acc 2 wire. Each modules electrical current is shown. 1 0 obj When troubleshooting is finished, press the soft key again to turn off the 60 Hz wire test mode. The Diagnostics screen displays an overview of the electrical status of each installed output module, plus additional functions. Of course, the primary design concern for controllers is probably going to be to have triacs that can handle the entire output of the supply transformer up to its internal fuse opening point. Been installing it for around 6 years now and its the best. HCC Manual Operation. I have replaced the decoder module and I am experiencing the same problem. Current is very helpful in troubleshooting field wiring conditions. Manually activate the desired station to energize the two-wire path. That's the valve wire after the decoder, not the decoder wire. If the Err message is not present, the problem is with the valve or VerticalScope Inc., 111 Peter Street, Suite 600, Toronto, Ontario, M5V 2H1, Canada. The decoder may be damaged. I should have mentioned my own research about polyswitches was not about their being primary protection in this application, but for use in another aspect of valve operation by remote controllers. Repeat firmware update steps and allow to complete. :clapping: Hey Pops, you ever hear of speaker phone or earbuds? If great post & replies.. very helpful stuff. I scheduled with the homeowner for Friday morning, so I will be calling at 8am Hawaii time this friday. The Fora platform includes forum software by XenForo. 2. If the LED on the decoder is not blinking green, ensure the station is active, checkthe two-wire path and wire connections, and repeatsteps 1 & 2. Disconnect the 2-wire path (s) from the controller. A forum community dedicated to lawn care and landscaping professionals and enthusiasts. xnH j"0 5xvyeY&B^RU}j5,WWu| ?Dy2)Q()F)aY@S8bAZDx]r|zy|hWl>V&vrU>%eD/ay2qlH&O}MHV- 0h$X>#e|:>6 ? WebOpen the controller inner door to see additional diagnostic information on the DUAL48M display. All rights reserved. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. In a diagnostics situation be aware their will be measurable current where their will none in a traditionally open circuit. http://www.hunterindustries.com/sites/default/files/ACC_Flash_Update_Instructions.pdf, http://www.hunterindustries.com/sites/default/files/DG_DecoderDesignGuide_dom.pdf, http://www.turf-digital.com/Jul2011/South#&pageSet=12&page=0. Whats the next step? Only looked it up a few days ago, and found the LTC1153 as a top result. Greenhouse, Nursery, and Open-Field Irrigation. If All rights reserved. WebDetect faults and perform electrical troubleshooting in the field without uninstalling decoders Quickly read decoder status, station address, current draw, and two-wire voltage to simplify maintenance Program decoder station address via wired connection to speed up installation and save time on-site I have a few oversize control transformers with actual fuseholders. 1:15:16 Types of Problems. WebPress the Station Finder soft key, and select the station number to locate. All diagnostic functions are completed via wireless communication between the EZ-DT and EZ-1 decoders. 2 0 obj For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. Display backlight will reduce battery life. School of hard knocks. Do not leave ClikTM Output Tester or Flow Output. Check two-wire path and controller power. WebTroubleshoot wire breaks, nicks, damage, and shorts Solve issues with wires, valves and locating decoders Assists with set-up and product recommendations Supports all 2-wire Hi guys. Sometimes it works perfectly fine. Not sure how their fuse size compares to the actual transformer ratings. Hi tlawn86 - I work for Hunter and don't jump in here often, so I hope this is okay. Reduce timer or turn off backlight display. It helps us both when you are in front of the controller when we speak. I have better luck using a 24 VAC signal. How to use a clamp-meter to troubleshoot: 1. here what ive done first i went threw with my wire locater to check for broken wires and located all the valves. Start station with MV from controller or remote. and the error code i get is "overcurrent" or "no comm" Does any one have any ideas. Example of using glass fuse holders on ADM. Any luck using self-resetting polyfuses instead of conventional glass fuses? VerticalScope Inc., 111 Peter Street, Suite 600, Toronto, Ontario, M5V 2H1, Canada. 5[@l$w ZIeQ|"+m}Z I feel like I am beating this to death. The curves I read showed there was a little bit of wiggle room (very little). <> When you purchase through links on our site, we may earn an affiliate commission, which supports our community. stream http://blog.circuitprotection.com/bwitch-device-and-when-to-use-a-fuse-te-talks/, http://blog.circuitprotection.com/bwitch-device-and-when-to-use-a-fuse-TE-talks/, http://www.underhillonline.net/Faulting_Transformer_p/transfrmr-240.htm, http://www.hunterindustries.com/sites/default/files/ACC_Flash_Update_Instructions.pdf. Y1-XBL)~\d1on4a*NkHIcOB\pMEw4pl>=U`S&bSh 9umf,[$ctNKXle5I<5~8[y!ofCO]myN 'T,]>V 7T% WebSolution Check controller power to two-wire path, or connect power leads to decoder. I'd say a helper would be handy. Check the voltage on the output of the decoder. However there have only been two fault messages, each for a random zone (19,22) stating "comm" error. Greenhouse, Nursery, and Open-Field Irrigation, EZ-1 Decoder Diagnostics and Troubleshooting. ill ask for you next time you really know your stuff.. When you purchase through links on our site, we may earn an affiliate commission, which supports our community. Decoder will not respond after firmware update. EZ-DT is Hunters new Easy Decoder Diagnostic Tool that makes troubleshooting the EZ-DS system even easier. HunterTekGeek 1. I have only gotten the problem to show itself for me once, that was today after installing the new module. Woo-Hoo! Operating large numbers endobj Check battery display or retry with USB power if available. Woo-Hoo! A technician can then listen for the underground noise to locate the selected solenoid. Any current-limiting circuitry would serve as transformer protection as well as triac protection. Press the Station Finder soft key, and select the station number to locate. Basically the system doesn't work intermittently, where the control box indicated that it is watering normally but it in fact is not. Rod says that Hunter ICD decoders should draw 3.5 to 4ma. Know most of the Hunter guys in San Marcos. That Jim Guy said: Rather than seeing 10.5-12.0 ma you should be getting about 4.5 at the 3rd decoder. also there are 22 stations. Check Power Supply Board status light. JavaScript is disabled. When the program doesn't run, the "module/line activity" light is rapidly blinking red. Sprinkus, nice job on providing the Decoder Troubleshooting Guide. nothing works. One of my location have a hunter acc 2 wire. 1:27:03 and the error code i get is "overcurrent" or "no comm" Does any one have any ideas. This seems serious enough for the big kahuna to do a site visit. 1:24:23 The Half Method. ICC2 Manual Operation. A technician can then listen for the underground noise to locate the selected solenoid. I have a great video by an engineer named Barry Brents he explains when to use poly switching and when you might not want to. The ICD-HP will check for a decoder. Konapride - U da Man! Awesome sps2868. Verify flow limits and delays allow for some variation. The clamp-meter will give accurate readings. Thank you very much, I will be calling Hunter Support tomorrow. Check Programming Cup connection to decoder and ICD-HP. Hunter does have an "ACC Decoder System Troubleshooting Guide", although I can't find a link to it anywhere on their website. if more reps reacted to product concerns the way you do Rod i believe they would received much better on this or any forum. VerticalScope Inc., 111 Peter Street, Suite 600, Toronto, Ontario, M5V 2H1, Canada. First, I invite you to call Tech Service at 800-733-2823 to help get this resolved. JavaScript is disabled. Web1:00:00 EZ Decoder Diagnostics. Make sure power is on to controller. Verify that the two wire path is connected to the controller, and that controller power is Most manufacturers use a diagnostic circuit breaker on the triac/output side of things.
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